Interviews are always fun, and Jared is genuinely one of the funniest people we have had on the interview show. Listen as Jared and Spencer discuss the Nothing Ventured Nothing Gamed Podcast, Jared's struggles as an Eternal GM, and the issues that arose while he was converting Rise of the Runelords from First Edition to Second Edition!

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